Bush and his cronies are still lying.
Published on March 29, 2004 By valleyboyabroad In International

The latest reason for invading Iraq being pushed by the Whitehouse is that it caused Libya to forsake it's nuclear programme.

But did it?

The Whitehouse has proven itself time and again to be liars, at the worst interpretation, and incompetent at the kindest of interpretations.

So let's look at the facts.

Five years ago, Britain resumed diplomatic relations with Libya.

Libya's economy was a wreck, screaming for relief from Western sanctions and in desperate need for outward investment.

Al'Qaeda had tried to kill the Libyan leader, and from around five years ago, Gadaffi started to provide as much intelligence as he could about Islamic extremists, whom he feared as much as the West.

Around two weeks after the 9/11 attacks, some Libya diplomats slipped into Britain and met with MI6.

They tabled an astonishing proposal.

Although much to-ing and fro-ing went on in the following two years, around March 2003 a deal seemed to be on the table.

Last December, the deal was formally announced:

'In short, it would end its clandestine nuclear, chemical and biological programmes and agree to 'verification inspections' by international adjudicators.

It was the culmination of two years of talking, horse trading and negotiations - a process that began a few weeks after the destruction of the World Trade Centre on 11 September 2001. In October that year a group of Libyan diplomats slipped unnoticed into Britain, led by Libya's ambassador to Rome' (The Observer)

...Moreover Kousa's arrival in the UK in October 2001 would signal a seismic shift in relations between Libya and the outside world; not least in the effective 'recruitment' of Libyan intelligence for the war on terror. A dangerous enemy had come on side, and with him, as a pledge of the sought-after alliance, he was carrying a pile of documents, detailing the names of Islamist terrorists in Africa, Europe and the Middle East and details of the 'cells' into which they were organising ( the Observer)

Before a shot was fired in Iraq, Libya had already come onside to aid in the war against terrorism and revoke its own ambitions for WMDs.

Other observers point out that Gadaffi had made moves to make peace with the West as long ago as 1992.

It is claimed by the Whitehouse that Gadaffi was forced to the negotiating table by the invasion of Iraq, however:

'The Pentagon may well have intended the assault on Iraq to inspire fear in recalcitrant leaders that they might be next, but the consequence of that bloody, sapping occupation of Iraq and its domestic controversy is that the White House is less able to threaten anyone else. Gadaffi has probably never been under less threat of US military action that at the moment he formally abandoned his nuclear programme with the honest observation 'It cost too much money' (Robert Cook - ex UK defence Secretary)

The cost to Iraq was born out by the fact that despite pursuing a nuclear programme, it hadn't really gotten very far.

But what about the 4,000 uranium centrifuges handed over by Libya as part of the deal?

It turns out that they were not centrifuges themselves, but the casings for the centrifuges.

According to ISIS and the Interational Atomic Energy Agency, Libya would have taken many more years to learn how to make the complicated rotors and other sophisticated components that are required to make such centrifuges operable, with no guarantee of success.

'...George Bush has used the disarmament pledge by Libya, long classified as a terrorist state, to justify the 2003 war with Iraq, after the embarradding failure to find a single weapon of mass destruction there. If ISIS and the IAEA are correct, the administration has been behaving over Libya as it behaved over Iraq, overblowing a threat to prove the rightness of its cause' (Rupert Cornwall, the British Independant)

There is no doubt that the removal of a rogue state intent on seeking WMDs is beneficial to the whole world.

But the victory in Libya is a victory for diplomacy, and not bombs.

As the US government continues to reel with revalation after revalation over its incompetence, at last the American people are beginning to realise that they have been lied to, and the approval rating for Bush and his cohorts diminish.

yechydda,


Comments
on Mar 29, 2004
I think Gadaffi relinquished his weapons program because he was really shaken up by the UN and the threats of Kofi annon. Muhammed Al Baradei is a frightening fellow as well.
on Mar 29, 2004
A very well written blog and very interesting to boot. Its great when people quote specific facts and sources, as you have done here.

I have read quite a bit about the Libya fiasco over the last few weeks (mostly from the BBC website, and the Independent UK) and have found recent US claims that Libya's "coming clean" was due to fear of an "operation freedom" type affair on their own soil, extremely distasteful. I think that where policy works, it should be acknowledged. What’s the point in lying, or giving people misinformation or spin on something that important? We want the world to progress and grow - and if policy works, it should be tried elsewhere.

If all the quotes /are/ true, then credit where credit is due I say, and using Libya as another war justification just isn't on.
on Mar 29, 2004
What are the chances that the American media will report this?
on Mar 29, 2004
Propaganda is a powerful tool. 80% of the American people at one point believed Sadaam Hussien was involved in the September 11th Trade center attacks, due to the administrations ignorance machine. If you believe everything the goverment tells you then your just as bad as The President himself, your ignorance is the administration's strength.
on Mar 30, 2004
Sam,

The whole point is that Bush and Co are now trying to lever this undoubted diplomatic success in bringing a potentially dangerous 'rogue' state into the family of cooperating states.

By labelling this as a success for a vindication of their actions in Iraq, they are in fact undermining the diplomatic approach which, as you point out, should now be pursued elsewhere.

Iran, North Korea and Syria for example.

Yet again, the lies that are woven are obfusticating the facts that mistakes were not only be made, but are continuing to be made.

yechydda,
on Mar 30, 2004
Sherye,

A sad casualty of the Iraqi invasion and occupation is that their Media behaved in an appaling manner.

Greg Dyke was particulary harsh in his condemnation of the reporting of Iraq issue, before during and after the occupation.

I think that out of something like 800 radio stations, only 3 presented a 'no to war' stance.

A democracy must needs be served by a free and active press, it is the life blood of democracy.

Sadly, it has haemorraged in the US.

yechydda,
on Mar 30, 2004
Passerby,

While I agree with the sentiment of your argument, if you don't have access to a good press or media, how else can you remain informed about the world?

The internet is a marvellous way to find out what is written elsewhere, but remember press restrictions in totalitarian states is a form of suppression, control of the masses.

This appears to be happening in the states also.

The worst thing of course, is that it is self-imposed, voluntary.

yechydda,
on Mar 30, 2004
I find it extremely interesting that when Brad posts one of his Bush-fanclub blogs, there is a virtual parade of Republicans lining a couple of blocks to add their unwavering support for Mr. President. However, when a flat-out lie is revealed and published, another piece of evidence of the shameful way president Bush has lured America into a war under false pre- and now after-tences, there is a deep, deeeeep silence.

Come on boys, at least make an effort and blame it all on the corrupt Euro's or the Commies at the UN.
on Mar 30, 2004
This is a very insightful article and very interesting. Will Bush, Pentagon and those other liars be another 4 year in the white house?
Who are Bush and those other clown going to bomb next? Who needs more money? I agree with (Erique Dela Crappe )when a flat-out lie is revealed and published, another piece of evidence of the shameful way president Bush has lured America into a war under false pre- and now after-tences, there is a deep, deeeeep silence and making fun of the war at dinner party is extremely stupid, who did he have in mind when he was making jokes, those who have been killed or injured in Iraq. President Bush does not care about his people only power and money and that combination can be extremely dangerous. Bush is an arrogant stupid fool and has manages to get most of the European country against him and the US.

Ransy
on Mar 30, 2004
I'll accept that Bush was exagerating. Hell, I've come to expect that from government (and it's not only Bush and the U.S. either lest one forgets the "genocide" in Kosovo). I also find it interesting that because the Media mostly chose a different side on the issue, that it's corrupt.
Personally, I find the distrust that people have for their U.S. government to be healthy. It ensures that the government won't be able to cross the line. Otherwise, like what happens in other countries (and I know enough non-US people to know that it does happen), they'll never know that they're being given the shaft by the government as they rarely even bother to question it.